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| 1 | + # Node Foundation TSC Meeting 2015-09-16 | ||
| 2 | + | ||
| 3 | + ## Links | ||
| 4 | + | ||
| 5 | + * **Audio Recording**: https://soundcloud.com/node-foundation/tsc-meeting-2015-09-16 | ||
| 6 | + * **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2898 | ||
| 7 | + * **Minutes Google Doc**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RCR2pGOc2d80NNusaX5DZaktWvHEsDUqfEZP-tvexBk | ||
| 8 | + * _Previous Minutes Google Doc: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rXBdtsD9PJTExNXgzNZ9bez9oOjW45kLPjun4zdt0dY>_ | ||
| 9 | + | ||
| 10 | + ## Present | ||
| 11 | + | ||
| 12 | + * Rod Vagg (TSC) | ||
| 13 | + * Brian White (TSC) | ||
| 14 | + * Steven R Loomis | ||
| 15 | + * Fedor Indutny (TSC) | ||
| 16 | + * Bert Belder (TSC) | ||
| 17 | + * Colin Ihrig (TSC) | ||
| 18 | + * Trevor Norris (TSC) | ||
| 19 | + * Shigeki Ohtsu (TSC) | ||
| 20 | + * Chris Dickinson (TSC) | ||
| 21 | + * Jeremiah Senkpiel (TSC) | ||
| 22 | + * Ben Noordhuis (TSC) | ||
| 23 | + * Alexis Campailla (TSC) | ||
| 24 | + * Domenic Denicola | ||
| 25 | + * Michael Dawson | ||
| 26 | + | ||
| 27 | + ## Agenda | ||
| 28 | + | ||
| 29 | + Extracted from **tsc-agenda** labelled issues and pull requests in the nodejs org prior to meeting. | ||
| 30 | + | ||
| 31 | + ### nodejs/node-v0.x-archive | ||
| 32 | + | ||
| 33 | + * Deprecate Array#values() in 0.12.x [#25877](https://github.com/nodejs/node-v0.x-archive/issues/25877) | ||
| 34 | + * Deprecate smalloc in v0.12 [#25784](https://github.com/nodejs/node-v0.x-archive/issues/25784) | ||
| 35 | + | ||
| 36 | + ### nodejs/node | ||
| 37 | + | ||
| 38 | + * Inspecting Node.js with Chrome DevTools [#2546](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2546) | ||
| 39 | + * util: Remove p, has been deprecated for years [#2529](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/2529) | ||
| 40 | + | ||
| 41 | + ## Minutes | ||
| 42 | + | ||
| 43 | + Due to IBM’s acquisition of StrongLoop, IBM is over the TSC 25% company limit rule. Michael Dawson and Steven Loomis have stepped down from TSC, but they are here as observers. | ||
| 44 | + | ||
| 45 | + ### Standup | ||
| 46 | + | ||
| 47 | + * Rod Vagg: Released 4.0.0, also 3.3.1 maintenance release. Getting the build system ready for building/publishing 0.10 and 0.12 binaries. | ||
| 48 | + * Brian White: not much, triaging issues and PRs, some work on dns parser | ||
| 49 | + * Steven R Loomis: tsc resignation for IBM/SL merge, some issue triage, working on a more robust download for ICU (ICU server was overloaded, fixed to ICU again redirects to sourceforge, discussed longer term discussions) | ||
| 50 | + * Fedor Indutny: v8’s ArrayBuffer fixes, reviewing PRs, fixing issues | ||
| 51 | + * Bert Belder: very few reviews/issue comments. Some libuv work on rwlocks. | ||
| 52 | + * Colin Ihrig: not much, some issue tracker work | ||
| 53 | + * Trevor Norris: Trying to make things (including Buffers) faster, some issue/PR review | ||
| 54 | + * Shigeki Ohtsu: Just a few reviews of issues. | ||
| 55 | + * Chris Dickinson: Working on shoving static npm analysis data into a database, slowly | ||
| 56 | + * Jeremiah Senkpiel: NodeConf.eu, issues and PRs, 4.1.0 release | ||
| 57 | + * Ben Noordhuis: only PR review and responding to bug reports, a patch or two upstreamed to v8 | ||
| 58 | + * Alexis Campailla: ARM cross-compile for CI. Misc fixes for VS 2015 / Win10 | ||
| 59 | + * Domenic Denicola: some issue and PR review, talking with v8 team | ||
| 60 | + * Michael Dawson: landed the build updated for AIX, also updating the tests for AIX where necessary. Looking into PPC failures. Working on getting us hooked into v8 security notifications. | ||
| 61 | + | ||
| 62 | + ### Previous meeting’s agenda | ||
| 63 | + | ||
| 64 | + * Jenkins merge jobs always overwrites PR-URL and Reviewed-By [#179](https://github.com/nodejs/build/issues/179) | ||
| 65 | + * doc: update COLLABORATOR_GUIDE [#2638](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/2638) | ||
| 66 | + * deps: update v8 to 4.5.103.30 [#2632](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/2632) | ||
| 67 | + * Node.js v4 Release Timeline [#2522](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2522) | ||
| 68 | + * Inspecting Node.js with Chrome DevTools [#2546](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2546) | ||
| 69 | + | ||
| 70 | + ### Deprecate Array#values() in 0.12.x [#25877](https://github.com/nodejs/node-v0.x-archive/issues/25877) | ||
| 71 | + | ||
| 72 | + ### Deprecate smalloc in v0.12 [#25784](https://github.com/nodejs/node-v0.x-archive/issues/25784) | ||
| 73 | + | ||
| 74 | + Jeremiah: Are these things that we think we can do? Should we go ahead with that? Is it a good idea to deprecate these things? | ||
| 75 | + | ||
| 76 | + Ben: How are we going to deprecate? Literal `util.deprecate`? | ||
| 77 | + | ||
| 78 | + Jeremiah: Probably? | ||
| 79 | + | ||
| 80 | + Trevor: They’re already floating a patch | ||
| 81 | + | ||
| 82 | + Rod: I’m fine with deprecating smalloc | ||
| 83 | + | ||
| 84 | + Trevor: Is there a deprecation cycle between LTS? I’m not sure how this would work? (i.e., if we deprecate now, LTS -> LTS upgraders will not see a deprecation warning.) | ||
| 85 | + | ||
| 86 | + Rod: Maybe punt to LTS WG? It could be quite a lot — it could be that we decide between stable versions to remove things (or we’re forced to), do we backport the deprecation to LTS? | ||
| 87 | + | ||
| 88 | + Jeremiah: I think it should be only for things we’re _forced_ to remove | ||
| 89 | + | ||
| 90 | + Action: Punt to LTS WG | ||
| 91 | + | ||
| 92 | + ### Inspecting Node.js with Chrome DevTools [#2546](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2546) | ||
| 93 | + | ||
| 94 | + Trevor: Have an 80% understanding of the work needed: WebSocket support in core (though not necessarily exposed publicly), API injection points. Are we ok with including web sockets support one way or another? | ||
| 95 | + | ||
| 96 | + Rod, Domenic, others: +1 | ||
| 97 | + | ||
| 98 | + ### util: Remove p, has been deprecated for years [#2529](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/2529) | ||
| 99 | + | ||
| 100 | + Discussion of Buffer “raw{s,}” encoding as well — undocumented, deprecated, inconsistently implemented in core. | ||
| 101 | + | ||
| 102 | + Action: Remove util.p (Jeremiah to respond.) | ||
| 103 | + | ||
| 104 | + Bert: Perhaps we should bulk remove? | ||
| 105 | + | ||
| 106 | + Rod: util.p is relatively trivial, has a deprecation warning, etc. | ||
| 107 | + | ||
| 108 | + Jeremiah: Brought this up because these things have been deprecated forever. util.exec has been deprecated for a while, as well. | ||
| 109 | + | ||
| 110 | + Trevor: raw/raws are deprecated in name only, no warnings, but C++ layer does not know about them (falls back to utf8) — maybe should be removed as a bugfix, because it does not work consistently. | ||
| 111 | + | ||
| 112 | + Action: Chris to list “least used stuff” (with apologies for how longs its taken!) | ||
| 113 | + | ||
| 114 | + ### Next Meeting | ||
| 115 | + | ||
| 116 | + September 23 | ||
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