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| 1 | + # Node Foundation CTC Meeting 2016-10-19 | ||
| 2 | + | ||
| 3 | + ## Links | ||
| 4 | + | ||
| 5 | + * **Audio Recording**: TBP | ||
| 6 | + * **GitHub Issue**: [#9143](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/9143) | ||
| 7 | + * **Minutes Google Doc**: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/18rnF8IfO10aQ0gRRasH3zSuv397-lm_x1fX1FSGcV7E> | ||
| 8 | + * _Previous Minutes Google Doc: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16l9D_OvAkeG6JoM_HRomHcFl--FTB61quvIWo9QfsVw>_ | ||
| 9 | + | ||
| 10 | + ## Present | ||
| 11 | + | ||
| 12 | + * Bradley Meck @bmeck (observer/GoDaddy/TC39) | ||
| 13 | + * Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (CTC) | ||
| 14 | + * Evan Lucas @evanlucas (CTC) | ||
| 15 | + * James M Snell @jasnell (CTC) | ||
| 16 | + * Josh Gavant @joshgav (observer/Microsoft) | ||
| 17 | + * Michael Dawson @mhdawson (CTC) | ||
| 18 | + * Julien Gilli @misterdjules (CTC) | ||
| 19 | + * Mikeal Rogers @mikeal (observer/Node.js Foundation) | ||
| 20 | + * Brian White @mscdex (CTC) | ||
| 21 | + * Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots (CTC) | ||
| 22 | + * Jenn Turner @renrutnnej (observer/Node.js Foundation) | ||
| 23 | + * Steven R. Loomis @srl295 (observer) | ||
| 24 | + * Sakthipriyan Vairamani @thefourtheye (observer) | ||
| 25 | + * Trevor Norris @trevnorris (CTC) | ||
| 26 | + * Rich Trott @Trott (CTC) | ||
| 27 | + | ||
| 28 | + ## Standup | ||
| 29 | + | ||
| 30 | + * Bradley Meck @bmeck (observer/GoDaddy/TC39) | ||
| 31 | + * Vacation, work on import changes for ES spec | ||
| 32 | + * Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (CTC) | ||
| 33 | + * Reviewed issues and PRs. Revisited an old PR. | ||
| 34 | + * Evan Lucas @evanlucas (CTC) | ||
| 35 | + * cut v6.8.1 release | ||
| 36 | + * opened small doc PR | ||
| 37 | + * issue/pr review | ||
| 38 | + * James M Snell @jasnell (CTC) | ||
| 39 | + * Preparing v7.0.0 release | ||
| 40 | + * HTTP/2 implementation | ||
| 41 | + * PRs | ||
| 42 | + * Josh Gavant @joshgav (observer/Microsoft) | ||
| 43 | + * PR’s to improve user experience with new debugger | ||
| 44 | + * investigating how to integrate guides with API docs | ||
| 45 | + * off this week | ||
| 46 | + * Michael Dawson @mhdawson (CTC) | ||
| 47 | + * couple days vacation | ||
| 48 | + * Added code coverage nightly job and PR for doc | ||
| 49 | + * misc issue review/comment/lands | ||
| 50 | + * Some Abi stable node discussion/work | ||
| 51 | + * A number of benchmarking issues to look at | ||
| 52 | + * Julien Gilli @misterdjules (CTC) | ||
| 53 | + * nothing too significant | ||
| 54 | + * Mikeal Rogers @mikeal (observer/Node.js Foundation) | ||
| 55 | + * Putting together bugeting stuff | ||
| 56 | + * Brian White @mscdex (CTC) | ||
| 57 | + * Continued work on improving string encoding/decoding | ||
| 58 | + performance. | ||
| 59 | + * Commented on issues, reviewed PRs. | ||
| 60 | + * Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots (CTC) | ||
| 61 | + * Some V8 backport triage. Not much else notable. | ||
| 62 | + * Jenn Turner @renrutnnej (observer/Node.js Foundation) | ||
| 63 | + * Just observing, no update | ||
| 64 | + * Steven R. Loomis @srl295 (observer) | ||
| 65 | + * ICU 58 going GA end of week so will submit PR to update - [#7844](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7844) | ||
| 66 | + * Backported break iterator fix to v4.x [#9008](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/9008) | ||
| 67 | + * Sakthipriyan Vairamani @thefourtheye (observer) | ||
| 68 | + * mostly PR reviews | ||
| 69 | + * Trevor Norris @trevnorris (CTC) | ||
| 70 | + * Worked with Matt Loring, proposed promise hooks api is | ||
| 71 | + sufficient combined with debugger API. | ||
| 72 | + * Rich Trott @Trott (CTC) | ||
| 73 | + * Outreachy | ||
| 74 | + * flaky tests | ||
| 75 | + * linting tools and rules | ||
| 76 | + | ||
| 77 | + --- | ||
| 78 | + | ||
| 79 | + ## Agenda | ||
| 80 | + | ||
| 81 | + Extracted from **ctc-agenda** labelled issues and pull requests from the **nodejs org** prior to the meeting. | ||
| 82 | + | ||
| 83 | + ### nodejs/node | ||
| 84 | + | ||
| 85 | + * doc: add ctc-review label information [#9072](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/9072) @Trott | ||
| 86 | + * http: improve invalid character in header error message [#9010](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/9010) @evanlucas | ||
| 87 | + * net: multiple listen() events fail silently [#8419](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/8419) @jasnell | ||
| 88 | + | ||
| 89 | + ### nodejs/TSC | ||
| 90 | + | ||
| 91 | + * Consider folding TSC into CTC [#146](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/146) @rvagg | ||
| 92 | + | ||
| 93 | + | ||
| 94 | + --- | ||
| 95 | + | ||
| 96 | + ## Previous Meeting Review | ||
| 97 | + | ||
| 98 | + ### nodejs/node | ||
| 99 | + | ||
| 100 | + * governance: expand use of CTC issue tracker [#8945](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/8945) | ||
| 101 | + | ||
| 102 | + * Finalize through GitHub discussions. | ||
| 103 | + * Consider `ctc-review` label (#9072). | ||
| 104 | + | ||
| 105 | + * doc: add supported platforms list [#8922](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/8922) | ||
| 106 | + | ||
| 107 | + * Complete, remove from agenda. | ||
| 108 | + | ||
| 109 | + * net: multiple listen() events fail silently [#8419](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/8419) | ||
| 110 | + | ||
| 111 | + * Back to GitHub for further discussion. | ||
| 112 | + | ||
| 113 | + ### nodejs/TSC | ||
| 114 | + | ||
| 115 | + * Consider folding TSC into CTC [#146](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/146) | ||
| 116 | + | ||
| 117 | + --- | ||
| 118 | + | ||
| 119 | + ## Minutes | ||
| 120 | + | ||
| 121 | + ### doc: add ctc-review label information [#9072](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/9072) @Trott | ||
| 122 | + | ||
| 123 | + @trott: Has landed. If any objections speak now. Goal is more resolutions within tracker, less in meetings. | ||
| 124 | + | ||
| 125 | + --- | ||
| 126 | + | ||
| 127 | + ### http: improve invalid character in header error message [#9010](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/9010) @evanlucas | ||
| 128 | + | ||
| 129 | + @evanlucas: Concerns about this leading to an information leak, because header name is displayed. | ||
| 130 | + | ||
| 131 | + Would like to land this for v7. Would have to be merged today. | ||
| 132 | + | ||
| 133 | + @trott: Question is if people are uncomfortable moving forward now before information from @Chalker is available. | ||
| 134 | + | ||
| 135 | + @mhdawson: Seems there are already some hits (problems). | ||
| 136 | + | ||
| 137 | + @evanlucas: Package `http-node` had problems, seems they copied `_http_outgoing.js`. | ||
| 138 | + | ||
| 139 | + @evanlucas: Perhaps we can just add a debug message, that would not be semver-major. | ||
| 140 | + | ||
| 141 | + @mhdawson: Seems better to do that than introduce a semver-major change this late. | ||
| 142 | + | ||
| 143 | + @evanlucas: That seems fine, as long as we can get the needed info. | ||
| 144 | + | ||
| 145 | + @trott: So land the debug message now, perhaps land standard output in v8.x. | ||
| 146 | + | ||
| 147 | + **Next steps**: | ||
| 148 | + | ||
| 149 | + * Create new PR with debug-based message, defer including in stderr/stdout till v8.x. | ||
| 150 | + | ||
| 151 | + --- | ||
| 152 | + | ||
| 153 | + ### net: multiple listen() events fail silently [#8419](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/8419) @jasnell | ||
| 154 | + | ||
| 155 | + @jasnell: Question is whether to land in v7.x. If so please take it up today! | ||
| 156 | + | ||
| 157 | + --- | ||
| 158 | + | ||
| 159 | + ### Consider folding TSC into CTC [#146](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/146) @rvagg | ||
| 160 | + | ||
| 161 | + @trott: Mainly to bring this to people’s attention, continue conversation in tracker. | ||
| 162 | + | ||
| 163 | + --- | ||
| 164 | + | ||
| 165 | + ### Info text in `--inspect` output [#8978](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/8978) | ||
| 166 | + | ||
| 167 | + @joshgav: Should we land this for v7.x? | ||
| 168 | + | ||
| 169 | + @trott: Is this a semver-major change? | ||
| 170 | + | ||
| 171 | + @jasnell: No, especially cause this is an experimental feature. | ||
| 172 | + | ||
| 173 | + @evanlucas: I’d prefer to wait till Chrome automatically lists Node.js targets via chrome://inspect, which is 55. | ||
| 174 | + | ||
| 175 | + @ofrobots: No urgency to land this change now and it will make it harder to get started. | ||
| 176 | + | ||
| 177 | + @mhdawson: Agreed, no urgency to land this before v7.x. | ||
| 178 | + | ||
| 179 | + @joshgav: So I’ll update PR to include generic URL but not remove the chrome-devtools URL for now. | ||
| 180 | + | ||
| 181 | + **Next steps**: | ||
| 182 | + | ||
| 183 | + * Josh to update PR to still include chrome-devtools URL. | ||
| 184 | + * Consider removing chrome-devtools URL when 55 is released (early December). | ||
| 185 | + | ||
| 186 | + --- | ||
| 187 | + | ||
| 188 | + ## Q/A on public channels | ||
| 189 | + | ||
| 190 | + | ||
| 191 | + --- | ||
| 192 | + | ||
| 193 | + ## Upcoming Meetings | ||
| 194 | + | ||
| 195 | + * CTC: 2016-10-26, 9am Pacific | ||
| 196 | + * TSC: 2016-10-20, 1pm Pacific | ||
| 197 | + * Build: 2016-10-24 (?) | ||
| 198 | + * Diagnostics: first week of November | ||
| 199 | + * Benchmarking: | ||
| 200 | + * LTS: | ||
| 201 | + * Post-Mortem: | ||
| 202 | + * API: | ||
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