I think if we're gonna go for this, then one of the major reasons would be to provide examples of creating the groupings/stackings using loops 'cause I know that's a common question and I think would help these examples feel more general.

Sure thing did you want to pick an example to do it for? Using the penguin dataset you can't really extract that many groups (from what I can think of... maybe you can). Unless we want to regress back to one of the original plots and refactor it to use a loop?

(is there any best practise way we generate the groups using loops that I can have a look as well or is it up to me to write it)

I think looping over your list is fine? for i, penguin_means in enumerate([adelie, gentoo, chinstrap]):

@story645 done

Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻

As for the other examples, I agree there are too many missing data points and it does clutter example.

I'm unsure on how to wrangle the actual dataset to make it "clean" for these particular graphs. That's the best I could do for the penguin dataset.

We could augment the data and just add some dummy values in and make a comment to say "hey this isn't all real data anymore".

Or we could just revert those examples back to the previous graphs and I can refactor those to use for loops.

I guess the question is what's more important for these examples; to demonstrate generalities (using loops) or to make the underlying data less arbitrary (in which case I'd try to work with the penguin dataset again).

Let me know 🤔

Demo generalities. I like penguins but the issue w/ the old datasets was that the labels/titles didn't make any sense - basically arbitrary is okay if the visualization is semantically meaningful. Please don't change the penguin data.

I don't know if this would be useful or confusing as all out, so I can mess around w/ it rather than you, but I'm kind of curious about how a self annotating image shakes out. Something like:

This example might tilt way into teaching viz, especially since the transpose can produce the exact same graph depending on how you set up the loop, but what I'm after is that level of this cell in the table goes to this part of the bar chart.

Thanks for the clarification @story645. Sure I understand, I won't modify the penguin data.

I like your idea and thank you for the drawn out graph viz! I get what your trying to do but I don't think I get it enough to implement it into these examples right now.

I guess from me what are the next steps. I can continue and play around the with penguin dataset and try to make it more "complete", or leave it and let you try work your idea into these graphs.

Just let me know 👍🏻

@story645

@story645 should be good to go

This has to be rebased/squashed - do you want to do it or should I?

Happy for you to do it, thanks!

Thanks for your persistence @kostyafarber !

Glad I could help!