The doc say that calling "sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding()" is equivalent to use "PYTHONLEGACYWINDOWSFSENCODING" environment variable.
In fact, this no apply to "os.fsencode" and "os.fsdecode".
Example with Python 3.6 64Bits on Windows 7 64 bits :
EXAMPLE CODE 1 (sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding()):
importsysimportos# Force the use of legacy encoding like versions of Python prior to 3.6.sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding()
# Show actual file system encodingencoding=sys.getfilesystemencoding()
print('File system encoding:', encoding)
# os.fsencode(filename) VS filename.encode(File system encoding)
print(os.fsencode('é'), 'é'.encode(encoding))
>> File system encoding: mbcs
>> b'\xc3\xa9' b'\xe9'
First is encoded with "utf-8" and not "mbcs" (The actual File system encoding)
EXAMPLE CODE 2 (PYTHONLEGACYWINDOWSFSENCODING):
importsysimportos
# Force the use of legacy encoding like versions of Python prior to 3.6.
# "PYTHONLEGACYWINDOWSFSENCODING" environment variable set before running Python.
# Show actual file system encodingencoding=sys.getfilesystemencoding()
print('File system encoding:', encoding)
# os.fsencode(filename) VS filename.encode(File system encoding)
print(os.fsencode('é'), 'é'.encode(encoding))
>> File system encoding: mbcs
>> b'\xe9' b'\xe9'
Everything encoded with "mbcs" (The actual File system encoding)
In "os.fsencode" and "os.fsdecode" encoding and errors are cached on start and never updated by "sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding()" after.
If you import os first then that's acceptable and we should document it more clearly. Try calling enable before importing os.
I wouldn't be surprised if os is imported automatically, in which case we need to figure out some alternate caching mechanism that can be reset by the enable call (or demonstrate that the caching is of no benefit).
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importsys# Force the use of legacy encoding like versions of Python prior to 3.6.sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding()
# Show actual file system encodingencoding=sys.getfilesystemencoding()
print('File system encoding:', encoding)
# os.fsencode(filename) VS filename.encode(File system encoding)importosprint(os.fsencode('é'), 'é'.encode(encoding))
>> File system encoding: mbcs
>> b'\xc3\xa9' b'\xe9'
Then we do in fact need to make os.fsencode/fsdecode either stop caching the encoding completely, or figure out a way to reset the cache when that function is called.
AFAIK, it's not possible to change the encoding after interpreter initialization, since it will have been already used for many different things by the time you get to executing code.
My experience with changing the Python "filesystem encoding" (sys.getfilesystemencoding()) at runtime: it doesn't work.
The filesystem encoding must be set as soon as possible and must never change later. As soon as possible: before the first call to os.fsdecode(), which is implemented in C as Py_DecodeLocale(). For example, the encoding must be set before Python imports the first module.
The filesystem encoding must be set before Python decodes *any* operating system data: command line arguments, any filename or path, environment variables, etc.
Hopefully, Windows provides most operating system data as Unicode directly: command line arguments and environment variables are exposed as Unicode for example.
os.fsdecode() and os.fsencode() have an important property:
assert os.fsencode(os.fsdecode(data)) == data
On Windows, the other property is maybe more imporant:
assert os.fsdecode(os.fsencode(data)) == data
If the property becomes false, for example if the filesystem encoding is changed at runtime, you get mojibake. Example:
os.fsdecode() decodes the filename b'h\xc3\xa9llo' from UTF-8 => 'h\xe9llo'
sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding()
os.fsencode() encodes the filename to cp1252 => you get 'h\xc3\xa9llo'
instead of 'h\xe9llo', say hello to mojibake
--
Sorry, I didn't play with sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding() on Windows. I don't know if it would "work" if sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding() is the first instruction of an application. I expect that Python almost decodes nothing at startup on Windows, so it may work.
sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding() is a private method, so it shouldn't be used.
Maybe we could add a "fuse" (flag only sets to 1, cannot be reset to 0) to raise an exception if sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding() is called "too late", after the first call to os.fsdecode() / Py_DecodeLocale()?
Windows doesn't use the fs encoding at all until Python code requests/provides something in bytes. Except for the caching in fsencode/fsdecode, there's no problem setting it once at the start of your program (and it can only be set once - there's no parameter and it cannot be undone).
What I'm most interested in is whether caching the encoding in fsencode/fsdecode is actually an optimization - if not, remove it, and if so make a way to reset it. I'll get around to this sooner or later but I don't want to stop someone else from doing it.
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Personally, I call "sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding()" for only one reason :
Temporary fixing issues with some third party libraries which use C code for files I/O (With filename as "mbcs" encoded bytes internally).
Theses libraries generally call "filename.encode(sys.getfilesystemencoding())" or "os.fsencode(filename)" before sending filenames from Python to C code.
Actually, I didn't see any side effect for using this function. Maybe because I call it at start before anything else.
Using the environment variable is not easy in my case.
I can look if encoding caching in fsencode is efficient (On Windows). And eventually propose a code change for this.
Temporary fixing issues with some third party libraries which use C code for files I/O (With filename as "mbcs" encoded bytes internally).
Theses libraries generally call "filename.encode(sys.getfilesystemencoding())" or "os.fsencode(filename)" before sending filenames from Python to C code.
Hum, Python lacks a function to encode to/decode from the ANSI code page, something like codecs.code_page_encode() / code_page_decode() with CP_ACP. It would allow to get the same encoding in UTF-8 and legacy modes.
Hum, it was long time ago since I worked on Windows. Well, Python has a "mbcs" codec which uses the ANSI code page which exists like "forever". These libraries should be patched to use "mbcs" instead of sys.getfilesystemencoding().
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Yes, I reported this encoding issue to some of them.
But, there is still some problems :
Some libraries are not updated frequently (Or not still maintained), and still use fsencode.
Tests and CI don't see this problem if they don't have a test case for filename with accents or other uncommon characters in english.
This problem will not be easy to eliminate totally...
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A little encoding cache benchmark.
Current Code:
=============
importsysdef_fscodec():
encoding=sys.getfilesystemencoding()
errors=sys.getfilesystemencodeerrors()
deffsencode(filename):
filename=fspath(filename) # Does type-checking of `filename`.ifisinstance(filename, str):
returnfilename.encode(encoding, errors)
else:
returnfilenamedeffsdecode(filename):
filename=fspath(filename) # Does type-checking of `filename`.ifisinstance(filename, bytes):
returnfilename.decode(encoding, errors)
else:
returnfilenamereturnfsencode, fsdecode
fsencode, fsdecode = _fscodec()
del _fscodec
---------
importos
%timeit os.fsdecode(b'\xc3\xa9')
The slowest run took 21.59 times longer than the fastest. This could mean that an intermediate result is being cached.
1000000 loops, best of 3: 449 ns per loop
%timeit os.fsencode('é')
The slowest run took 24.20 times longer than the fastest. This could mean that an intermediate result is being cached.
1000000 loops, best of 3: 412 ns per loop
Modified Code:
==============
fromsysimportgetfilesystemencoding, getfilesystemencodeerrorsdeffsencode(filename):
filename=fspath(filename) # Does type-checking of `filename`.ifisinstance(filename, str):
returnfilename.encode(getfilesystemencoding(),
getfilesystemencodeerrors())
else:
returnfilenamedeffsdecode(filename):
filename=fspath(filename) # Does type-checking of `filename`.ifisinstance(filename, bytes):
returnfilename.decode(getfilesystemencoding(),
getfilesystemencodeerrors())
else:
returnfilename---------importos
%timeit os.fsdecode(b'\xc3\xa9')
The slowest run took 15.88 times longer than the fastest. This could mean that an intermediate result is being cached.
1000000 loops, best of 3: 541 ns per loop
%timeit os.fsencode('é')
The slowest run took 19.32 times longer than the fastest. This could mean that an intermediate result is being cached.
1000000 loops, best of 3: 502 ns per loop
I don't think it's worth retaining the cache on Windows in the face of the broken behaviour. Any real-world case where a lot of paths are being encoded or decoded is also likely to involve file-system access which will dwarf the encoding time. Further, passing bytes on Windows will result in another decode/encode cycle anyway, so there will be a bigger performance impact in using str (though even then, probably only when the str is already represented using 16-bit characters).
Unless somebody wants to make a case for having a more complex mechanism to reset the cache, I'll make the change to remove it (protected by an 'if sys.platform.startswith('win')' check).
This issue can be fixed by adding a private os._update_fs_encoding() function which would update fsencode(), fsdecode(), and os.environ functions. sys._enablelegacyfsencoding() would call it if os is cached in sys.modules. Something like that.
We can not fix every possible cached fsencoding, and paths already encoded in utf-8.
If Mercurail can use PYTHONLEGACYWINDOWSFSENCODING instead of _enablelegacywindowsfsencoding, no need to fix/keep it.
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JGoutin commented on Jan 11, 2017
The doc say that calling "sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding()" is equivalent to use "PYTHONLEGACYWINDOWSFSENCODING" environment variable.
In fact, this no apply to "os.fsencode" and "os.fsdecode".
Example with Python 3.6 64Bits on Windows 7 64 bits :
EXAMPLE CODE 1 (sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding()):
# os.fsencode(filename) VS filename.encode(File system encoding)
print(os.fsencode('é'), 'é'.encode(encoding))
First is encoded with "utf-8" and not "mbcs" (The actual File system encoding)
EXAMPLE CODE 2 (PYTHONLEGACYWINDOWSFSENCODING):
# Force the use of legacy encoding like versions of Python prior to 3.6.
# "PYTHONLEGACYWINDOWSFSENCODING" environment variable set before running Python.
# os.fsencode(filename) VS filename.encode(File system encoding)
print(os.fsencode('é'), 'é'.encode(encoding))
Everything encoded with "mbcs" (The actual File system encoding)
In "os.fsencode" and "os.fsdecode" encoding and errors are cached on start and never updated by "sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding()" after.
zooba commented on Jan 11, 2017
If you import os first then that's acceptable and we should document it more clearly. Try calling enable before importing os.
I wouldn't be surprised if os is imported automatically, in which case we need to figure out some alternate caching mechanism that can be reset by the enable call (or demonstrate that the caching is of no benefit).
JGoutin commented on Jan 12, 2017
The result is the same.
zooba commented on Jan 12, 2017
Then we do in fact need to make os.fsencode/fsdecode either stop caching the encoding completely, or figure out a way to reset the cache when that function is called.
malemburg commented on Jan 13, 2017
Adding Victor, who implemented the fs codec.
AFAIK, it's not possible to change the encoding after interpreter initialization, since it will have been already used for many different things by the time you get to executing code.
vstinner commented on Jan 13, 2017
My experience with changing the Python "filesystem encoding" (sys.getfilesystemencoding()) at runtime: it doesn't work.
The filesystem encoding must be set as soon as possible and must never change later. As soon as possible: before the first call to os.fsdecode(), which is implemented in C as Py_DecodeLocale(). For example, the encoding must be set before Python imports the first module.
The filesystem encoding must be set before Python decodes *any* operating system data: command line arguments, any filename or path, environment variables, etc.
Hopefully, Windows provides most operating system data as Unicode directly: command line arguments and environment variables are exposed as Unicode for example.
os.fsdecode() and os.fsencode() have an important property:
assert os.fsencode(os.fsdecode(data)) == data
On Windows, the other property is maybe more imporant:
assert os.fsdecode(os.fsencode(data)) == data
If the property becomes false, for example if the filesystem encoding is changed at runtime, you get mojibake. Example:
instead of 'h\xe9llo', say hello to mojibake
--
Sorry, I didn't play with sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding() on Windows. I don't know if it would "work" if sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding() is the first instruction of an application. I expect that Python almost decodes nothing at startup on Windows, so it may work.
sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding() is a private method, so it shouldn't be used.
Maybe we could add a "fuse" (flag only sets to 1, cannot be reset to 0) to raise an exception if sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding() is called "too late", after the first call to os.fsdecode() / Py_DecodeLocale()?
zooba commented on Jan 13, 2017
Windows doesn't use the fs encoding at all until Python code requests/provides something in bytes. Except for the caching in fsencode/fsdecode, there's no problem setting it once at the start of your program (and it can only be set once - there's no parameter and it cannot be undone).
What I'm most interested in is whether caching the encoding in fsencode/fsdecode is actually an optimization - if not, remove it, and if so make a way to reset it. I'll get around to this sooner or later but I don't want to stop someone else from doing it.
JGoutin commented on Jan 13, 2017
Personally, I call "sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding()" for only one reason :
Temporary fixing issues with some third party libraries which use C code for files I/O (With filename as "mbcs" encoded bytes internally).
Theses libraries generally call "filename.encode(sys.getfilesystemencoding())" or "os.fsencode(filename)" before sending filenames from Python to C code.
Actually, I didn't see any side effect for using this function. Maybe because I call it at start before anything else.
Using the environment variable is not easy in my case.
I can look if encoding caching in fsencode is efficient (On Windows). And eventually propose a code change for this.
vstinner commented on Jan 13, 2017
Hum, Python lacks a function to encode to/decode from the ANSI code page, something like codecs.code_page_encode() / code_page_decode() with CP_ACP. It would allow to get the same encoding in UTF-8 and legacy modes.
vstinner commented on Jan 13, 2017
Hum, it was long time ago since I worked on Windows. Well, Python has a "mbcs" codec which uses the ANSI code page which exists like "forever". These libraries should be patched to use "mbcs" instead of sys.getfilesystemencoding().
JGoutin commented on Jan 13, 2017
Yes, I reported this encoding issue to some of them.
But, there is still some problems :
This problem will not be easy to eliminate totally...
JGoutin commented on Jan 20, 2017
A little encoding cache benchmark.
Current Code:
=============
fsencode, fsdecode = _fscodec()
del _fscodec
---------
%timeit os.fsdecode(b'\xc3\xa9')
The slowest run took 21.59 times longer than the fastest. This could mean that an intermediate result is being cached.
1000000 loops, best of 3: 449 ns per loop
%timeit os.fsencode('é')
The slowest run took 24.20 times longer than the fastest. This could mean that an intermediate result is being cached.
1000000 loops, best of 3: 412 ns per loop
Modified Code:
==============
%timeit os.fsdecode(b'\xc3\xa9')
The slowest run took 15.88 times longer than the fastest. This could mean that an intermediate result is being cached.
1000000 loops, best of 3: 541 ns per loop
%timeit os.fsencode('é')
The slowest run took 19.32 times longer than the fastest. This could mean that an intermediate result is being cached.
1000000 loops, best of 3: 502 ns per loop
Result:
=======
Cache is a 17% speed up optimization.
zooba commented on Jan 21, 2017
Thanks for checking that.
I don't think it's worth retaining the cache on Windows in the face of the broken behaviour. Any real-world case where a lot of paths are being encoded or decoded is also likely to involve file-system access which will dwarf the encoding time. Further, passing bytes on Windows will result in another decode/encode cycle anyway, so there will be a bigger performance impact in using str (though even then, probably only when the str is already represented using 16-bit characters).
Unless somebody wants to make a case for having a more complex mechanism to reset the cache, I'll make the change to remove it (protected by an 'if sys.platform.startswith('win')' check).
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vstinner commented on Jun 26, 2023
I wrote an article about PEP 529: https://vstinner.github.io/python36-utf8-windows.html
vstinner commented on Jun 26, 2023
This issue can be fixed by adding a private os._update_fs_encoding() function which would update fsencode(), fsdecode(), and os.environ functions. sys._enablelegacyfsencoding() would call it if os is cached in sys.modules. Something like that.
methane commented on Jun 26, 2023
We can not fix every possible cached fsencoding, and paths already encoded in utf-8.
If Mercurail can use PYTHONLEGACYWINDOWSFSENCODING instead of _enablelegacywindowsfsencoding, no need to fix/keep it.
vstinner commented on Jun 26, 2023
Every attempt to change the filesystem encoding at runtime was a big failure: https://vstinner.github.io/painful-history-python-filesystem-encoding.html
I already proposed to deprecate sys._enablelegacywindowsfsencoding() some years ago, but apparently it was too early.
methane commented on Jun 26, 2023
I filed an issue to Mercurial bugzilla.
https://bz.mercurial-scm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6829
zooba commented on Jun 26, 2023
I don't remember your proposal, but it was always meant to be deprecated. Just never actually seemed important enough to do it.
Fixing this would require making fsencode and fsdecode less efficient for everyone, all the time. I don't think it's worth it.
methane commented on Jun 28, 2023
Almost only user of legacywindowsfsencoding is Mercurial. So we need help from Mercurial developer...
gh-73427: deprecate `_enablelegacywindowsfsencoding` (#107729)
methane commented on Dec 28, 2023
Since there is no reply from Mercurial developers, I merged the deprecation of _enablelegacywindowsfsencoding.
Can we close this issue as "won't fix"?
zooba commented on Dec 28, 2023
Sounds good to me
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